I listened. I hear it. But, I don’t know. They don’t teach this to men. With men, it’s kavanah; its learning, its using the moach to understand, its delving deeper into meanings and words and ideas. It seems with women its TOTAL submission AND NOT using one’s internal Bina applied to her life. With Women/wives there is their responsibility as a “Ezer K’Negdo”. The speakers advice seems to negate how Hashem Created Adam’s partner, that sometimes she would be knegdo and at other times she would inspire. Men are intrinsically weak and they receive their inspiration to accomplish great things from their wives. I believe the examples in the segment 32 to 36 are not Miriam Hanavia leading the women while Moshe Rabbeinu lead the men, or Rivka, or Rahel, or even Sarah Imeinu. Where would Yaakov be without Rivka? Where would Yitzchak be without Sarah’s insight into Yishmael? And let us not forget Esther in Shushan. But then this is based only on the segment from 32-36.
Today’s Treat begins with a short, sweet story about the great Zaddik of Jerusalem, Rabbi Aryeh Levine, and his wife, Hannah. One day, Mrs. Levine hurt her foot and needed to see a doctor. Her husband escorted her to the doctor’ s office, where they waited patiently for their turn. When they went into the exam room, the doctor asked what was the problem. Rabbi Levine looked up and said, “My wife’s foot hurts us.”
Rabbi Levine truly saw his wife as an extension of himself, and vice-versa. This is the ultimate understanding of the marriage partnership.
When God decided that it was not good for Adam to be alone, He stated: “It is not good that the human being should be alone; I will make a help-meet for him” (Genesis 2:18). What exactly is a help-meet? In Hebrew the term used is ezer-k’negdo, which is literally translated as helper-against him, seemingly a term that contradicts itself.
No one would argue against the formulation that marriage is a partnership. The Jewish perspective on this partnership, however, sheds an important light on just how that partnership works. For most people, the idea of ezer, helper, is obvious. Of course spouses are supposed to assist one another, to be there for each other in times of need.
It is, however, equally important for a spouse to be k’neged--in opposition--when it is in the other person’s best interest. After all, “helping” does not mean always agreeing. Sometimes a spouse has to force an issue, be critical, and push the partner to do the right thing. This may mean simply discouraging a spouse from wasting time/money, or something far more significant, such as confronting substance abuse. This is what a partnership is all about. found here
Neshama, you said "The speakers advice seems to negate how Hashem Created Adam’s partner," ..... at the 33:31 mark to 33:57 is where the speakers talks about "HIM - ie spouse" emunah's not blind.... brained washed........one Rav....arrogance..." but I don't see where you think The speakers advice seems to negate how Hashem Created Adam’s partner, please clarify.
She says “just do” without thinking into things. It is the thinking into things that epitomizes our Imahos. After thinking into / ramification of / then one proceeds hoping that one is advancing in Avodas Hashem.
Thank you for clarifying, Neshama. My take on why the speaker said such is .... if given a mitzvah to do ie HaShem implants in your heart to do a specific good deed....don't let the and, ifs, and buts get in your way of fulfilling this good deed. Now the following I am posting for myself because I do indeed know where my neshama is wanting to lead my guf - if it was a bad deed planted in my head and heart then I know to push it away - that it is not the ratzon of HaShem....however, a good mitzvah that IS the ratzon of HaShem should be acted on asap.... lech lecha
Rabbi Sholom Gold in his article "Shall We Ascend the Mountain" quoted Reb Dovid: "Reb Dovid quoted the Yid HaKodosh who said that though every Jew must strive to fulfill all the commandments of Torah, there are commandments unique to each individual from the time of creation and for which he came to this world. How, asked the Yid HaKadosh, should one know what is the commandment destined for him? He replied, THE MITZVAH TOWARD WHICH ONE FEELS DRAWN AND LONGS TO FULFILL.
Tractate Niddah 70b Tefillia without action – One without the other is insufficient. Prayers must be accompanied by action.
But Aliya is not listed as one of the 613 min haTorah, even though it was where HaShem was taking us from Mitzrayim. For me, it's the Mitzvah of Shabbat. I think it's the Ramban that includes it. http://etzion.org.il/vbm/english/archive/halak66/01halak.htm Please do not take this as being against Aliya, or to dampen your desire, as that was most in my heart and mind also. For a different reason. BE"H I wish you a speedy return to Eretz Yisrael. Israel is where ALL the Mitzvos are intended to be observed. It is the place of the redemption and the purpose of the world. Shabbat Shalom.
Thanks for the link Neshama. Don't worry your words have not put a damper on my desire to make aliyah. It is a general mitzvah and therefore not listed. Also it was included.. . Reread shiur on link you gave over. Amein to your bracha. SOON
Tzvi Fishman has another excellent article on Israel’s Boycotters: http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/18978#.V1Qh4Mfwwkg. Side by side are the good people of Israel, lovers of the Land and HaShem – vs the evil erev rav and a-s leftists. Recommend the illuminati video on Devash’s blog! Very shocking!
Moriah, read this to understand what the Lubavitcher rebbe said on this statement. I posted this on Shirat Devorah's site also To elaborate on the Rebbe's saying above: Now, yishuv Eretz Yisrael is not one of the 613 mitzvos, which means that if a person lives in Israel, he is fulfilling a mitzvah; but if he does not live in Israel, it’s not a transgression [because other mitzvos that are a mitzvah if you do them, but if you don’t, you have not transgressed.]
So, regarding all the people who want to go to Eretz Yisrael because it’s a mitzvah the Rebbe asks, “Have they done all the other 613 mitzvos that are obligatory?” If one has done all the other mitzvos, and now you want to be totally complete, that is your privilege! However, there are people that jump to this mitzvah first, before they’ve done the other mitzvos that are definitely, without an argument, obligatory. The Rebbe is not saying that people should not come to Israel; the Rebbe is simply clarifying certain issues regarding coming to Israel. found here - NOW I UNDERSTAND BETTER, I better be sure I am doing all the other 612 mitzvos that apply to women! READ THE ARTICLE IN FULL HERE
Moriah as of now HaShem has my family here. Though I am living outside Israel HaShem is my Elokei! He knows our heart. And in His perfect timing my family will be in Eretz Yisrael. Search my site for the phrase "born in Zion". And listen to Rabbi Anova's shirum.
I listened. I hear it. But, I don’t know. They don’t teach this to men. With men, it’s kavanah; its learning, its using the moach to understand, its delving deeper into meanings and words and ideas. It seems with women its TOTAL submission AND NOT using one’s internal Bina applied to her life. With Women/wives there is their responsibility as a “Ezer K’Negdo”. The speakers advice seems to negate how Hashem Created Adam’s partner, that sometimes she would be knegdo and at other times she would inspire. Men are intrinsically weak and they receive their inspiration to accomplish great things from their wives. I believe the examples in the segment 32 to 36 are not Miriam Hanavia leading the women while Moshe Rabbeinu lead the men, or Rivka, or Rahel, or even Sarah Imeinu. Where would Yaakov be without Rivka? Where would Yitzchak be without Sarah’s insight into Yishmael? And let us not forget Esther in Shushan. But then this is based only on the segment from 32-36.
ReplyDeleteI found the following to consider.
ReplyDeleteEzer K'negdo
Today’s Treat begins with a short, sweet story about the great Zaddik of Jerusalem, Rabbi Aryeh Levine, and his wife, Hannah. One day, Mrs. Levine hurt her foot and needed to see a doctor. Her husband escorted her to the doctor’ s office, where they waited patiently for their turn. When they went into the exam room, the doctor asked what was the problem. Rabbi Levine looked up and said, “My wife’s foot hurts us.”
Rabbi Levine truly saw his wife as an extension of himself, and vice-versa. This is the ultimate understanding of the marriage partnership.
When God decided that it was not good for Adam to be alone, He stated: “It is not good that the human being should be alone; I will make a help-meet for him” (Genesis 2:18). What exactly is a help-meet? In Hebrew the term used is ezer-k’negdo, which is literally translated as helper-against him, seemingly a term that contradicts itself.
No one would argue against the formulation that marriage is a partnership. The Jewish perspective on this partnership, however, sheds an important light on just how that partnership works. For most people, the idea of ezer, helper, is obvious. Of course spouses are supposed to assist one another, to be there for each other in times of need.
It is, however, equally important for a spouse to be k’neged--in opposition--when it is in the other person’s best interest. After all, “helping” does not mean always agreeing. Sometimes a spouse has to force an issue, be critical, and push the partner to do the right thing. This may mean simply discouraging a spouse from wasting time/money, or something far more significant, such as confronting substance abuse. This is what a partnership is all about. found here
Neshama, you said "The speakers advice seems to negate how Hashem Created Adam’s partner," ..... at the 33:31 mark to 33:57 is where the speakers talks about "HIM - ie spouse" emunah's not blind.... brained washed........one Rav....arrogance..." but I don't see where you think The speakers advice seems to negate how Hashem Created Adam’s partner, please clarify.
DeleteShe says “just do” without thinking into things. It is the thinking into things that epitomizes our Imahos. After thinking into / ramification of / then one proceeds hoping that one is advancing in Avodas Hashem.
ReplyDeleteThank you for clarifying, Neshama. My take on why the speaker said such is .... if given a mitzvah to do ie HaShem implants in your heart to do a specific good deed....don't let the and, ifs, and buts get in your way of fulfilling this good deed. Now the following I am posting for myself because I do indeed know where my neshama is wanting to lead my guf - if it was a bad deed planted in my head and heart then I know to push it away - that it is not the ratzon of HaShem....however, a good mitzvah that IS the ratzon of HaShem should be acted on asap.... lech lecha
ReplyDeleteRabbi Sholom Gold in his article "Shall We Ascend the Mountain" quoted Reb Dovid: "Reb Dovid quoted the Yid HaKodosh who said that though every Jew must strive to fulfill all the commandments of Torah, there are commandments unique to each individual from the time of creation and for which he came to this world. How, asked the Yid HaKadosh, should one know what is the commandment destined for him? He replied, THE MITZVAH TOWARD WHICH ONE FEELS DRAWN AND LONGS TO FULFILL.
Tractate Niddah 70b Tefillia without action – One without the other is insufficient. Prayers must be accompanied by action.
But Aliya is not listed as one of the 613 min haTorah, even though it was where HaShem was taking us from Mitzrayim. For me, it's the Mitzvah of Shabbat. I think it's the Ramban that includes it. http://etzion.org.il/vbm/english/archive/halak66/01halak.htm
ReplyDeletePlease do not take this as being against Aliya, or to dampen your desire, as that was most in my heart and mind also. For a different reason. BE"H I wish you a speedy return to Eretz Yisrael. Israel is where ALL the Mitzvos are intended to be observed. It is the place of the redemption and the purpose of the world. Shabbat Shalom.
Thanks for the link Neshama. Don't worry your words have not put a damper on my desire to make aliyah. It is a general mitzvah and therefore not listed. Also it was included.. . Reread shiur on link you gave over. Amein to your bracha. SOON
ReplyDeleteTzvi Fishman has another excellent article on Israel’s Boycotters: http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/18978#.V1Qh4Mfwwkg. Side by side are the good people of Israel, lovers of the Land and HaShem – vs the evil erev rav and a-s leftists. Recommend the illuminati video on Devash’s blog! Very shocking!
ReplyDeleteAfter all, for a Jew who lives outside Eretz Israel it's as if he has no G-d. How can that be good?
ReplyDeleteMoriah, read this to understand what the Lubavitcher rebbe said on this statement. I posted this on Shirat Devorah's site also
DeleteTo elaborate on the Rebbe's saying above: Now, yishuv Eretz Yisrael is not one of the 613 mitzvos, which means that if a person lives in Israel, he is fulfilling a mitzvah; but if he does not live in Israel, it’s not a transgression [because other mitzvos that are a mitzvah if you do them, but if you don’t, you have not transgressed.]
So, regarding all the people who want to go to Eretz Yisrael because it’s a mitzvah the Rebbe asks, “Have they done all the other 613 mitzvos that are obligatory?” If one has done all the other mitzvos, and now you want to be totally complete, that is your privilege! However, there are people that jump to this mitzvah first, before they’ve done the other mitzvos that are definitely, without an argument, obligatory. The Rebbe is not saying that people should not come to Israel; the Rebbe is simply clarifying certain issues regarding coming to Israel. found here - NOW I UNDERSTAND BETTER, I better be sure I am doing all the other 612 mitzvos that apply to women! READ THE ARTICLE IN FULL HERE
Moriah as of now HaShem has my family here. Though I am living outside Israel HaShem is my Elokei! He knows our heart. And in His perfect timing my family will be in Eretz Yisrael. Search my site for the phrase "born in Zion". And listen to Rabbi Anova's shirum.
ReplyDelete